Cradle of Filth vs. Dimmu Borgir

[Alfader]

Which is worse? And who have sold out the most?

[ludo]

In my opinion, CRADLE OF FILTH were meant to be commercial while DIMMU BORGIR just became commercial and are still playing respectable music. So CRADLE OF FILTH is worse.

[Runtothepills]

I have always disliked Cradle of Filth..

Dimmu Borgir does play some good music occasionally. But its not really what i usually listens to.

I havent been online for 2 weeks cause ive been in Hungary, but now im back \m/_

[Graveheart]

In my opinion, CRADLE OF FILTH were meant to be commercial while DIMMU BORGIR just became commercial and are still playing respectable music. So CRADLE OF FILTH is worse.
Well said. Cradle of Filth is not only bad but it's also overrated, the band is so... wrong. I could listen to Anorexia Nervosa with the same effort and be much happier.

[NoHopeNoFear_HellSpAwN]

Cradle of Filth, I have never liked or will never like, they are too big of sell outs, Dimmu Borgir, isn't that big at selling out, they still make incredible music, and also Jan Axel Bloomberg was the drummer for Stromblast which is a good album, I'd say COF is worse.

[Kronos]

Cradle of Filth

[Seb]

I like Dimmu Borgir very much but can't stand Cradle Of Filth, so... COF
I never understood why these bands are always assimilated, they sound totally different imo, the only thing is that both sell many albums.

[Necromancer]

Cradle of Filth
Please explain your opinion.

[Alfader]

I never understood why these bands are always assimilated, they sound totally different imo, the only thing is that both sell many albums.

Exactly. They are both the biggest sell-outs within Black Metal.

I would have to say COF too, though, as Dimmu Borgir haven't always been popular, and they didn't become it on purpose.

[Necromancer]

I never understood why these bands are always assimilated, they sound totally different imo, the only thing is that both sell many albums.

Exactly. They are both the biggest sell-outs within Black Metal.

I would have to say COF too, though, as Dimmu Borgir haven't always been popular, and they didn't become it on purpose.

Well these days Cradle Of Filth aren't Black Metal. They're more Gothic Metal. In fact they've been that way for some time.

[Something Wicked]

At least Dimmu Borgir has some pride. Cradle of Filth just needs to dissapear. They've sold out beyond beleif as well.

[Alfader]

I never understood why these bands are always assimilated, they sound totally different imo, the only thing is that both sell many albums.

Exactly. They are both the biggest sell-outs within Black Metal.

I would have to say COF too, though, as Dimmu Borgir haven't always been popular, and they didn't become it on purpose.

Well these days Cradle Of Filth aren't Black Metal. They're more Gothic Metal. In fact they've been that way for some time.

I know. Neither are Dimmu Borgir, but they were at some point - untill they sold out.

[Kronos]

Atleast both bands admit that they aren't black metal anymore.

[Eshtaol]

Dimmu Borgir are worse. When yo look past how mainstream Cradle of Filth are, and what a dickhead Dani is, the music isn't all that bad. Dimmu is just constant shit.

[mdelany08]

Thornography was kinda a sellout move. There are one of the most popular metal bands in England, didn't supprise me, I like em both though.

[p3zd1sp3nx0r]

Dimmu is just constant shit.

Care to elaborate? Saying something is just "shit" isn't really a creditable argument.

[BurbotsRevenge]

damn! i didnt realise it siad "who was WORSE?" - so i put dimmu borgir, even though theyre way better than COF, COF never really got to me... is there a way to change vote? prob not...

[nihilistik-terror]

In my opinion, CRADLE OF FILTH were meant to be commercial while DIMMU BORGIR just became commercial and are still playing respectable music. So CRADLE OF FILTH is worse.

my sentiments exactly

[saturnascends1or10]

CoF sucks and has always sucked. Dimmu is okay, most of the time...In Sorte Diaboli is a pretty good album

[Persephone]

In my opinion, CRADLE OF FILTH were meant to be commercial while DIMMU BORGIR just became commercial and are still playing respectable music. So CRADLE OF FILTH is worse.
Agreed!

[black_lycan]

tho im a fan of cradle of filth but i would say they hav become worse now. their older stuff were pretty good but now they sound like shit. on the other hand dimmu borgir is still the best.

[click_skull]

WHY CRADLE OF FILTH?

Dimmu borgir's FOR ALL TID. ????

[soundsystem718]

Cradle of Filth....

[mortemdominus]

Cradel sold out from the beginning and Dimmu sold out later one.

So Cradel is worst, but Dimmu is still no good either.

[Go Now Your Lord Is Dead]

Cradle Of Filth wins this one hands down...

[lian gerbino]

worse: cradle!

[Dr-Death]

Hmm, it's like comparing a puddle of piss to a pile of shit.

Well, Dani is at least a decent lyricist, so I guess I'm voting for Cradle, much as it sickens me to do so.

[behemothfan92]

eh I used to be a huge CoF fan...Please no laughing at my naivety.
Dimmu Borgir plays TOLERABLE music. They aren't that bad actually, just kinda overrated.

[ChristSlaughter]

Cradle of Filth. They stopped making decent music after CATB and started making watered down filth like Thornography, not to mention Dani's vocals are horrible and their new music is boring to the last degree.

They lick the sweat of a dead man's balls.

[b0rnt0k1ll]

Dimmu Borgir for me, nothing Cradle of Filth has ever done can compare to Storm Blast (pure fuckng excellent album) and although their new stuff isn't as good as their old stuff I still think it's ok where as COF's new stuff is terrible, also i've always thought Danni Filth looks pathetic live.

[Malephar]

Hmm...

I couldn't stand Cradle for fucking years, until recently when, for some reason, I began to find them a lot more...tolerable, I guess. This is probably going to go down like a lead balloon, but I actually much prefer their newer stuff; I have to admit that I can't listen to albums like 'Cruelty And The Beast' or 'Dusk And Her Embrace' without getting bored and wanting to turn them off.

I do like Dimmu though, I love the changes they've made to their sound since 'For All Tid' came out. I especially liked the idea of 'In Sorte Diaboli' as a concept album. I don't really like 'Spiritual Black Dimensions' all that much, but everything else is pretty good.

Both of these bands have some seriously brilliant musicians, but what disappoints me is that neither Dani nor Shagrath has the most brilliant vocal range, although I guess Dani is probably the more experimental of the two. And then there's their live stage presence. When I saw Cradle a couple of years ago, I don't remember Dani doing much more than trying to rile his audience, and his vocals were a bit of a let down. I've not yet seen Dimmu live unfortunately, but from the DVD footage I've seen, Shagrath doesn't appear to be too passionate about what he does; in fact he seems slightly unenthusiastic, like he can't be bothered. However, it could be a completely different story when I actually do go and see them, so for now I will try to keep a more open mind about that one.

As a rule, I don't think the two sound identical or anything, although I can see why some people do think that. Obviously there's having had the same drummer, and sometimes the vocals can sound quite similar, but to be honest I find that to be the case with only one or two of each band's songs.

As far as selling out goes, they're both guilty, although Cradle obviously for longer; and with regards to whether they are still black metal or not, well, I personally would say that depends on the individual album, even the individual song. But either way, both bands are still perfectly capable of bringing out good music, so I say keep it coming!

[Premonition666]

i think that Cradle of filth is fairly crappy, but the thing about Dimmu Borgir is that they look a lot just like a bunch of "satanic" posers

[mi1i1i1tch]

Both of the bands are what originally pulled me into the 'black metal' genre. Cradle's cover of Venom's black metal track, and Dimmu's video for 'Mourning Palace' made me obsess over tremolo picking and fast drums. Now as I look back, both of the bands have already had their climax way back. My favorite Cradle album would have to be Damnation and A Day. The concept, the art, and the song writing were powerful on this album. Then they took two more shits after that album, when they switched record labels. Roadrunner really changed their direction, but in the wrong one in my opinion. Nymphetamine and Thornography definately pulled out more commercial sounds of the band.

Now Dimmu is a love/hate for me. Pretty much just as Cradle is. I enjoyed all of their works before Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia (what a title). Spiritual Black Dimensions definately had the most majestic and expiremental feel to it. Deathcult and In Sorte have their moments I guess, but most of it is just boring shit. I love Hellhammer's drumming though. Insanity!

Dimmu is much more tolerable to me, I still can listen to their albums whole and not want to blow my brains out.

[Temper]

WHY CRADLE OF FILTH?

Dimmu borgir's FOR ALL TID. ????

Good album.

CoF sucks and has always sucked. Dimmu is okay, most of the time...In Sorte Diaboli is a pretty good album

Horrible album.

[Pinz_&_Needlez]

i like both....Dimmu is 10 times better though....

[Black Jesus]

I like both also, but Cradle of Filth did sell out way more. I mean started off really black metal then went romantic goth.

I still enjoy their music though

[Menelyagor_FH]

Mainstream CRAP!!! Fuck them both!!!

There is SO much better out there!!!!

[Demon]

there may be better and unlike most of the people here I like COF most of the time but some songs are absolute bullshit

[SonoftheNorth]

Actually I dislike Dimmu Borgir a lot more. I find them to be sinfully dull, and Shagrats voice is very annoying. While I don't like COF either sometimes Dani Filth's crazy singing and appearance can bring a smile to your face...
Selling out is an overused and misused term to criticize bands who have brought their music to a larger audience. While I enjoy listening to bands that are little known in this world, I don't see anything wrong with a metal band gaining more fans. As long as they aren't intentially trying to sell a million albums and stay faithful to their music, they shouldn't be scorned by some joker saying they've 'sold out'.

[bucky01403]

I love them both, but I love Dimmu just a little more.